Saturday, November 13, 2010
Revenge
cailee-11
Offend One, Offend them All
Saying this led to his/her feelings being hurt and her feeling like an outcast. Things like this are devastating truth bringers, because even the freaks make fun of and mess with the other freaks. One example being when the Siamese female twins were arguing with one of their significant other who had a stuttering problem and as he stuttered they told him to spit it out already or something to that extent. This goes to show that even disabled people sometimes poke fun, but dont realize how much damage their statement actually may do.
-Derek Guarino
Modern Day Freakshows?
Medical professionals and students need to think about the feelings of the disabled when they are being presented in front of large groups. They need to understand that in a sense, they are gawking at the disabled as people gawked at freaks in the past. However, the disabled need to be more understanding that the intentions of the students and doctors are essentially good. They are not being gawked at because it is entertaining for others, but rather to educate others about disabilities and improve the lives of those that are disabled. It is for the benefit of the disabled as well as the students to be studied, because the ultimate goal is a better life for those that are living with a disability. Because of this, there needs to be a compromise. Rather than displaying a disabled person for hundreds to look at, there should be a much more personal approach. For example, maybe one or two medical students will sit in on a disabled person's visit to the doctor. This way the students can observe and learn both about the person with the disability, as well as how they should interact on a more personal level.
-cailee 10
Eli Clare and Stones
However, one of the passages in the story makes me debate whether Clare really does attribute the abuse to him becoming a transgenders person.
“How did his gendered abuse reinforce my sense of not being a girl? How did his non-abusive treatment of me as an almost son interact with the ways in which fists and penis and knives told me in no uncertain terms that I was a girl? ... and later “How did my mother’s willful ignorance of the hurt he inflicted on me influence what I absorbed about femininity and masculinity?” (126)
Clare states that he does not know and will never be sure if the abuse or neglect he was exposed to in life caused him to be transgender or homosexual. (Shawn Parkhurst, 20)
right vs. wrong
Lastly who would this benefit? Does it benefit the child? I would say yes all those doctors discussing one child the more thoughts and ideas the better. Will it benefit the medical profession? Why sure it's cost affective and unfortunately in the state we live in that has to be a factor. So does time with the amount of time some children are given to live with disabilities the more help the better. Unfortunately this whole idea is not pretty, but getting over the political correctness of somethings is the best way to help people. I just think this maybe one of those occasions. Thomas Moss (post 15)
Freaks? Or Just Different?
I do not believe that Browning meant to portray the freaks as objects of interest. Naturally, they are going to attract attention, not all of it positive, because they look so different from the typical person, and they are not usually seen an everyday person’s everyday lift. In fact, it seems that he does just the opposite of portraying them as “freaks”. If he truly wanted to show them as being “freaks,” I believe that Browning would have shown the acts that they performed for the circus. He does not do this, in order to keep the film from becoming another platform on which to prove their “freakiness”.
I think that Browning successfully allowed his viewers to see the “freaks” as people. We got to know each character and what their personalities were like, which were not freaky or different in any special way. They seemed like regular people that just had different bodies. They had their own family, and they all fit in and served a purpose to that family, just like normal people have certain roles and purposes in their own societies. I also think that Browning effectively portrayed how the circus people react when their family is threatened. They had absolutely no problem accepting Cleopatra and Hercules into their family. They wanted to include them, as equals in their “circus people” family. They showed this at the wedding feast.
It was only when Cleo and Hercules began showing threatening behavior to members of the family that the other members began to react and treat them accordingly. When they did begin threatening bodily harm to Cleo and Hercules, it was with switchblades and guns, probably two of the most common weapons for everyday people to have. If Browning had truly wanted to play into the “freakiness” of his characters, I think he would have had the circus people act in completely unexpected ways. He would have really gone to the extremes and possibly pulled stereotypical fears of physically deformed people like having them have particularly gruesome ways of killing people. Instead, he gave them two very common weapons. They did end up turning Cleo into a chicken-woman. I think that was justified, and just a play on her being terrified and prejudiced against the circus people, effectively turning her into a freak, so she could experience how she had treated them from the other side.
(Sarah Jaworowicz, Post 20)
From Beginning to End
In the end of the movie the "freaks" were also shown as being freaks but in their own way. When the second part of the movie started with the family accepting Cleopatra into their family it was showing her as being the "freak." Most people would see her as being the normal one but since they were the freaks and she was normal she was a freak to them. When Cleopatra poisoned Han the family acted like the mob and attacked her and Hercules. When thinking about the family attacking them it almost seems like the childest side is still coming out. The reason it seems this way is because I feel like they could have called the cops as Venus wanted to do, instead they went the easiest way out and killing Hercules and turning Cleopatra into a chicken woman.
Kevin Ostempowski Post 2
Freaks
I do think the freaks changed throughout the movie, as we watched and were introduced to the characters we began to learn more and more about their individual characters. Even though they all had physical and mental deformities they soon became more human, or normal to us as viewers we began to relate more to them once we were able to see they experienced emotions and struggles just like we do, and we began to feel emotions towards and about them. As we learned more about them they became more friendly and we soon began to see the characters true colors. As the film went on we saw the freaks change at the end going from friendly to down right dirty at the end of the film killing one performer and seriously mangling another. I do not think the film reinforces the notion that individuals with deformities are outcasts, since throughout the film it allowed us to become closer to the characters and begin to forget more about their disabilities.
Cali Simmons (Post 12)
Abuse and Sexuality
Another important part in this specific section was when Eli writes about how she asked her mother if she was feminen. This seems important for a few reasons one of which it stops her growth as a female in a way. Her mother didn't remember her response to the question. Therefore could not help with her growing up and not being raped by her father and acting like a normal girl. Another possible reason in my mind atleast for this to be such a key factor is because of the fact that she always saw her sister putting make up on and other things like that. Eli could have possibly seen that as being wrong and the way she acted being normal.
Kevin Ostempowski Post 1
Freaks
These people are no different inside than you and I but they are treated horribly wrong. There "owner" makes a profit off of people to come and watch a circus involving these "freaks." To me this is way worse than the verbal torment that Rachel received in her story.
Anthony DiChristopher
post 16
Eli Clare
She was born a female but had an aspiration to be a male at a very young age. She then started dressing and acting like a man. The question now is present, is Eli Clare a man or a woman?
Anthony DiChristopher
post 15
Who exactly are the Freaks?
Eli Clare
Freeks Are People Too
When Hans was lonely, Rita was his only friend. She looked out for him and stuck up for him and cared for him. She loved him more than anybody else. Those were the last words in the movie. I think this is giving the message of not to look past the people that care about you for something that was never even there in the first place. This is how it started out in the beginning to when Rita and Han were talking about their engagement. The story revolved around Han and his desire for love but did not find it because he was looking in the wrong spots. When he spent his fortune on the house he had purchased, it showed that he felt a little better about himself and was not wasting his time on people that never cared for him. (Mason Roessler Post 18)
Eli Claire- Person of Nature
Eli Claire can be labeled as a freak. This is not saying that he is a freak and should be bannished from society. It is saying that he is a freak where he had a sex change which made him different which caused him to act differently which is where the term freak comes in. Being a freak can be looked at two ways. It can be seen as a person who is abnormal and seen in society as weird and an outcast. It also can be seen as a person who is different but has a very unique ability which is labeled as a freak as being not human but in a good way where it would be impossible to out beat him. Eli Claire is a freak in a way where he is different, but has a unique ability to write just like anybody else and have a passion for it too. (Mason Roessler Post 17)
Who is the real Freak?
The people that we may have seen as normal (Hercules and Cleopatra) are actually the real outcasts. They reject the circus family or what could be viewed as society. Because of their disrespect to people that they find inferior they end up being subjected to either desk or an even worse fate of the ones that they called "Freaks." I think what Browning was really trying to suggest that our true being is not judged by the way that we look on the outside, but the character and attitude that we display which comes from the heart. (Shawn Parkhurst, 19)
Friday, November 12, 2010
Blog Prompts: Browning's Freaks
Hi everyone,
If you are stumped as to what to blog about this week consider responding to one of the discussion questions I passed out in class on Freaks. I will re-post them below for your reference.
1. Browning (a former circus performer himself) never represents his characters’ actual performances within Madame Tetrallini’s circus, but rather chooses to depict their lives behind the scenes. Why do you think this is?
2. Why is it that the freaks are viewed as children or as child-like? How do they challenge this view within the film?
3. How is sexuality represented in the film? In what ways do freaks trouble traditional sexuality?
4. Are women depicted in a positive light within the film? Give a few examples.
5. Is Browning’s film problematic in that he depicts the freaks as objects of interest, fascination, and visual curiosity, or does he ultimately allow his viewers to achieve a more sympathetic understanding of them?
6. How do the freaks change throughout the film? Does the film reinforce the notion that individuals with disabilities are outcasts and to be feared?
7. Did the film at all make you uncomfortable? If so, why?
Or you may want to analyze the above image that was used to advertise the film.
Best,
--Jeff
Stones
“I turn my pockets and heart inside out, set the stones—quartz, obsidian, shale, agate, scoria, granite—along the scourged top of the wall I once lived behind, the wall I still use for refuge. They shine in the sun, some translucent to the light, others dense, solid, opaque. I lean my body into the big unbreakable expanse, tracing which stones need to melt, which will crack wide, geode to crystal, and which are content just as they are” (Clare, 134-135).
I think this is my favorite part of any of Clare’s work that we’ve read. It sums up her writing in a beautiful way. I love the imagery of placing her stones on her wall that she built to protect herself as she was growing up. Building a wall around one’s personal self is a thing we all do. There are certain things that we don’t want people to know, fearing that if they knew, they would like us less, if they are “friends,” or mock us for, if they are “enemies”.
Placing stones on a wall or other kind of monument is an act of remembrance. Clare is placing her stones on her wall of protection, remembering each one of these experiences that shaped her life, that made her want to hide behind that wall. There are several different kinds of stones in her heart and pockets, just like she has different kinds of experiences and memories. Each one of these experiences was important in shaping who she is today. She has overcome so much, just by growing up, learning, meeting new people, and perhaps through the act of writing about them, showing the world who she is, and how these experiences shaped her.
The act of deciding which stones need to “melt” is important in life. I don’t think that the experiences represented by these stones ever really go away, but Clare is acknowledging the effect that these stones have had on her life, but she knows that she doesn’t need or want to carry them around with her anymore. She knows how they have shaped her life, but she doesn’t need to constantly remember them or the effect they has on her anymore. She is letting them go.
The stones that will “crack wide, geode to crystal” are the experiences that had such a profound effect on her and her life that she will never be able to not carry them around with her. They started off as just ugly stones, experiences that were not pleasant in the time they occurred or the time soon after. But as time went on, Clare realized that these experiences had the most beautifully profound effect on her and her life. They cracked open, and revealed beautifully colored crystals just below the ugly stone surface. She had to carry them around for a while before she learned of the true beauty of their lesson.
And of course there are those stones that are “content just as they are”. These stones are either good memories of life and its lessons, or the ones that haven’t yet explained why they are important. They deserve their time in our hearts and pockets just as much as the other kinds of stones. They have their purpose, or we will soon learn of what they mean.
We all have all of these kinds of stones. The important thing to remember is that every stone we pick up in life is somehow important in shaping us as adults. Whether we know their purpose now or in the future, each experience happened for a reason, and each experience deserves a spot on our wall of protection, to remember each one, and give it its due respect.
(Sarah Jaworowicz, Post 19)
Looking Beyond the Skin
Confusion
As the movie progresses it continues to portray the characters as normal human beings. When we get to the second part after the wedding is when the changes occur. At the wedding dinner Cleopatra poisons Hans because Frieda told her about his fortune. Cleopatra becomes intoxicated and starts making fun of the freaks just as they are welcoming into being one of them. Hans is very upset about this. After the dinner the freaks all come together to find refenge onto Cleopatra and Hercules. All the freaks turn into "monster-like" creatures in order to refenge Cleopatra for what she has done to Hans. As they attack her and Hercules you see the animal like behaviors come out. UNfortunately, refenge is a normal human being action and sometimes we do act like animals when we want refenge but the movie portrays more aggressive monster-like actions.
(Kelcey Summers 19)
Wednesday, November 10, 2010
The Real "Freak"
The freaks in the movie are treated more like passive children than actually adults. Hans is a perfect example of this claim, because although he is an adult man, he looks more like a small child. He dismissed by some of the other circus performers because of his appearance, which is sad to watch, because he wants to be treated like every other adult. Cleopatra does no justice by pretending to love him and playing with his emotions. She is the real freak in this movie, because she does not have a heart at all, and finds pure enjoyment in destroying someone else's life. She only cares about herself and only sees herself as being the perfect image, when in fact she is more disfigured that any of the other circus performers. This will most likely have an impact later in the movie as she is about to marry Hans as some of the freaks are beginning to catch on to her plan.
(David Roberts, Post 20)
Identity
Although Clare is a successful person now, he had to endure much pain and hardships while growing up. There was one certain scenario that I found odd at first, but perhaps the purpose of this certain scenario was to compensate for something else. This, of course, is when Clare was raped by his father when he was younger. The father could have done this to prove his dominance over Clare, who was beginning to portray himself as a man. The father could have wanted to show Clare what it means to be a man, although to rape Clare was an extreme method to go by. However, if the father had wanted to show Clare who he really was, then why did he treat him as a son for so many years? Maybe, the father wanted to show what the life of a man was like in hopes that Clare would not be satisfied, however, Clare had loved working with his father and doing the hard labor each day. Clare was free to feel and do what he wanted to do, and by doing so would eventually set him free.
(David Roberts, Post 19)
Consent...right or wrong?
On the flip side if a child has an overprotective parent then they risk the chance to learn important failures in life. If a parents protects their child from ever failing at something how do you learn to be a better person? Again if a parent makes all the decisions for a child while they are growing up what makes them think they can make decisions when they get older. They will be afraid to make decisions because their parents are there to do it for them.
(Kelcey Summers 18)